The One About ReFraming Mental Health & Communication with Gen Z and Gen Alpha

In this episode, we sit down with Jordan Francis of Reframe Youth Ministry—licensed clinician, former youth pastor, and curriculum creator—for a conversation that will shift how you think about student ministry.

We talk about:
 • What technology is really doing to students’ minds and bodies
 • Why presence, not performance, is the secret sauce of ministry
 • How to build trust by letting students say the “wild stuff”
 • Why compassion, vulnerability, and presence must define our pastoral posture
 • Practical strategies to reframe how we talk, listen, and disciple

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